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fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes)

Postby nornicle » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 5:08 pm

Hi guys,

Devastated! Fish died in QT had been in full cupramine for four weeks and two doses of praziquantel..

Could it have been flukes returning? Fish was happy for past two weeks (no dosage of prazipro in that time) by in the last few days was breathing heavy, not eating and what I could tell looked like smaller lighter patches..yesterday he was rushing through the water as if something in the gills.

So annoyed as a small dose of prazipro and a freshwater bath may have saved him :/

I'm surprised it is not more prevalent, maybe it's because I keep playing with butterflies and Angels.. Anyway ordered 500ml of prazipro to stock up and run an all out war on a parasites in QT in the future. :wall:
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Re: Ergh fish just died in QT after head shaking and not eat

Postby saltymike » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 8:02 pm

What is your salinity level like?

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Re: Ergh fish just died in QT after head shaking and not eat

Postby Gats » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 8:04 pm

What's the parameters in the tank? I'm too new to this to offer a voice of experience, but curious if there was a PH drop as fish freak out and discoloration sounds like PH (freshwater days talking here)?
A lot of meds like prazipro can strip O2 quick and I was thinking of buying an air stone if I needed prazipro.

If you were using that and cupramine together, it is possible there was a sharp O2 and in turn, PH drop.


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Re: Ergh fish just died in QT after head shaking and not eat

Postby nornicle » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 8:29 pm

Using strong circulation, ph stable around 8 full cycle minimal nitrates with 30% weekly change.

Salinity 1.026

Will have to be more vigilant with prazipro and freshwater dips, it was a butterflyfish who can be more susceptible to flukes. I'm just irritated as I thought my QT method was iron clad, so fell asleep at the wheel...
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fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes)

Postby Gats » Mon 09 Nov, 2015 8:59 pm

That sux mate. I would never have expected it after 4wks of treatment :(

I haven't even got as far as fw dips so will do some homework and hit you up for the experienced word in a couple of weeks.

Sorry for the loss.
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Re: fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes

Postby Iain3 » Tue 10 Nov, 2015 5:02 pm

Would 4 weeks of Cupramine may have been too much for it? I thought the reccomended period at an effective dosage rate was two weeks, that is what I use. 4 weeks quarantine, on Cupramine for two weeks starting around day 10 (depending on when they start eating).

Most fish I have quarantined have showed signs of stress when they went through two weeks of Cuproamine, during a 4 weeks of Cupramine maybe it gets too much.

Could it be Velvet or something like that. I had that once, wiped out all but one fish in my tank, typical symptoms were that fish seemed fine, although looking a little rough for a few days, then stopped eating and got very active for a day or so, then died. I think Cupramine should kill this but not sure how effective it is.
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Re: fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes

Postby chromus » Tue 10 Nov, 2015 5:18 pm

What were u trying to treat? Flukes?

How sure were u of the diagnosis.

What test kits were u using with the Cu?

Did you parallel treat with both Prazi and Cu?

If you serial treated how much time in between to let the fish system recover?
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Re: fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes

Postby nornicle » Tue 10 Nov, 2015 10:05 pm

chromus wrote:What were u trying to treat? Flukes?

How sure were u of the diagnosis.

What test kits were u using with the Cu?

Did you parallel treat with both Prazi and Cu?

If you serial treated how much time in between to let the fish system recover?


Yeh flukes, I fw dipped dead fish to check. I'm an idiot is all I can say...

I did parallel treat but following some guys in the USA that should be no problem as prazipro is pretty gentle. Next time I run three doses five days apart.

I used seachem test kit.

Was pretty sure, as the skin started getting light coloured splotches, etc. for some reason butterflyfish seem to be a magnet for parasites. I just need to be more careful and alert and do freshwater dips too.
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Re: fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes

Postby chromus » Tue 10 Nov, 2015 10:32 pm

All fish are crawling with bugs, just varies which ones...
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Re: fish just died in QT head shaking and not eating (flukes

Postby nornicle » Tue 10 Nov, 2015 11:32 pm

chromus wrote:All fish are crawling with bugs, just varies which ones...


Hmm like flattened small pieces of rice, translucent and kind of flutter in the water?

Really dumb mistake by me, hope others learn, I sure have :/
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