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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby NiCd » Thu 05 Jul, 2012 7:59 pm

Going well I have been given a few what looks like tiny dendros as well which were near death and they are my current labor of love getting them back to health. The fm pellets seem to be loved by all.

Had a issues with my gorg though, it's been with me for a nearly a year, grew it from a 3cm frag to a large open hand sized and within two days it just turned black, nothing has changed in the tank, the polyps are still there but it looks like the thing has just up and died?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby chriso316 » Sun 08 Jul, 2012 8:53 pm

NPS bleach - corals turn black? conspiracy!
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby fishwhisperer » Sun 08 Jul, 2012 10:30 pm

God I hate trawling thru your tank journals :konk:



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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Mon 09 Jul, 2012 11:38 am

NiCd wrote:Going well I have been given a few what looks like tiny dendros as well which were near death and they are my current labor of love getting them back to health. The fm pellets seem to be loved by all.

Had a issues with my gorg though, it's been with me for a nearly a year, grew it from a 3cm frag to a large open hand sized and within two days it just turned black, nothing has changed in the tank, the polyps are still there but it looks like the thing has just up and died?


Nice one Adam, they will come good in no time for you!

I have noticed when scraping back gorgs to mount them on frag plugs that their flesh seems to melt into a black dense liquid mush when scraped away, my white one especially which is a weird contrast and why I noticed it so much. Could there be some form of predation which is causing the flesh to melt and look black?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Mon 09 Jul, 2012 11:42 am

on another frustrating note my Shellfish diet algae concentrate has gone sour overnight and now smells like rotten eggs :( still 2 months until its best before date and it wasn't left out of the fridge or anything like that :furious: Still had like 3/4 of the bottle so there goes $60 bucks down the drain :furious: :furious: :furious:

so now I either buy more, and risk the same thing and risk wasting more money or look at removing the dendro's which I have loved, and enjoyed learning about :-s not happy jan!
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby MeLLeR » Mon 09 Jul, 2012 12:34 pm

Don't be a tight-wad...buy more!

You do realise don't you that half of RTAW get our NPS fix vicariously through your journal??
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby ClayLutt » Mon 09 Jul, 2012 1:16 pm

Dan wrote:on another frustrating note my Shellfish diet algae concentrate has gone sour overnight and now smells like rotten eggs :( still 2 months until its best before date and it wasn't left out of the fridge or anything like that :furious: Still had like 3/4 of the bottle so there goes $60 bucks down the drain :furious: :furious: :furious:

so now I either buy more, and risk the same thing and risk wasting more money or look at removing the dendro's which I have loved, and enjoyed learning about :-s not happy jan!


any chance of possibly freezing the mix when u first buy it Dan? not familiar with the stuff your using directly, but just a thought?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 12:21 am

Cant be frozen, the freezing process ruptures the cell walls of the algae.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby galleri3090 » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 12:38 am

Awesome, Dan. respectfully .... your a freak.

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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby NiCd » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 9:00 am

Dan wrote:Cant be frozen, the freezing process ruptures the cell walls of the algae.


by memory the last bottle I got had "DO NOT FREEZE" in basically the same size print as "shellfish diet" on the front label :)

What temp is your fridge running at?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 9:04 am

normal fridge temp - I leave the shellfish diet in the kitchen fridge to ensure a stable temp as my little dosing fridge has temp fluctuations when the door is open because it is so small.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby NiCd » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 10:37 am

you must have a very understanding Mrs! I was banned from keeping "fish stuff" in our house hold fridge.

Your bar fridge is that a compressor or thermoeletric based system?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 11:04 am

Yeah understanding is an undertatement Adam, her patience of my fish tank is nothing short of saint like :bow:

The bar fridge is a compressor but just has temp swings when door is open or closed. Instead of shellfish diet which has 4 algae strains I might look into the single algae strain rotifer diet which can be frozen.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Fugly » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 11:54 am

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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby ClayLutt » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 12:04 pm

Dan wrote:Cant be frozen, the freezing process ruptures the cell walls of the algae.


dam thats a shame, they are expensive bottles!
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby NiCd » Tue 10 Jul, 2012 12:13 pm

I was pondering about grabbing one of the small USB thermoeletric fridges you see on ebay for $25 that basically fit a 400ml container to bring some of my dosing into automation, but by the sounds of it there will be nowhere near enough temp stability. Which also makes me wonder about the Stirrex....

Are you getting the shellfish diet through proaqua?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 5:26 pm

yeah I would make sure the algaes stay at stable temps although I have a feeling it may have been a pipette which wasn't sanitized which caused the culture to crash :-s

galleri3090 wrote:Awesome, Dan. respectfully .... your a freak.

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Thanks Ming, will take that as a compliment ;) your a bit of a freak yourself!


The tank has had some neglect the last few weeks (mainly due to me not having the time to get the stirrer working again so its getting manual feeds at the moment :konk: and the dendros have had no phyto for 2 weeks due to the shellfish diet going off :furious: )
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 5:31 pm

Noticed the Tubastrea micrantha wasn't opening as it should about 2 weeks ago and given their reputation as being the hardest of the sun corals to keep alive I thought yep its starting the inevitable decline although there was no tissue recession. I moved it away from the rockwork into full light and strong water flow and its opening up better than it ever did - I've since realized that all the wild photos of them I've seen have been in full sunlight and strong water flow so something to consider if you have one or intend on having one - give it light and blast it with flow!

Just before feeding time this morning
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Dan » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 5:40 pm

another update for those who are following the dendro growth experiments, below is a progress shot of that arm which is regrowing.

15th June 2012
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25th June 2012
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17th July 2012 (current) - getting hard to reference it to the previous shots. The blurred polyp bundle in the top of the middle photo is the bundle which is at the far top right of this shot. There is also a polyp in this shot eating a frozen cyclops :)
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and a full shot of the coral. The growth photos are of the smaller arm in the middle of the "V" of the two larger arms
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby blags » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 5:42 pm

Fantastic mate that is great to see :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby ClayLutt » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 5:43 pm

Man u have some skills with the camera Dan! tank is looking great :thumbsup:
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...

Postby Kapyong23 » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 6:26 pm

Dan wrote:Noticed the Tubastrea micrantha wasn't opening as it should about 2 weeks ago and given their reputation as being the hardest of the sun corals to keep alive I thought yep its starting the inevitable decline although there was no tissue recession. I moved it away from the rockwork into full light and strong water flow and its opening up better than it ever did - I've since realized that all the wild photos of them I've seen have been in full sunlight and strong water flow so something to consider if you have one or intend on having one - give it light and blast it with flow!

Just before feeding time this morning
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I would agree Dan. There's pics of mine in my old TJ and it was an absolute cracker. Had well over 100 individual polyps and it was placed high up with plenty of light (10 x 80w ATI) and just under the directional flow of an MP40. Went gang busters. They are a beautiful coral.
:clap: Thats for your tank mate. Inspiring stuff.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby MeLLeR » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 6:38 pm

Awesome, thats incredible to see! Your doing an awesome job :thumbsup:

RE temp swings with your fridge door, even though the temp changes when you open and close your door the product temperature will not change much (unless you leave the door open long enough) just something to remember when considering your temps....youd be better off keeping the temp probe in the beaker if you could? All this is moot if your already doing that though! lol
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby ACRO AL » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 6:40 pm

picked up this beauty from vebas today

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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby lewy the tang » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 11:43 pm

nice tank, do you get your nps locally?
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby locuus » Tue 17 Jul, 2012 11:58 pm

Love the Micanthra :-x That is one healthy specimen!

I spoke to Proaqua and they are in the process of getting permits for Phyto Feast and a number of other Reef Nutrition feeds which is good news.
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby fishwhisperer » Wed 18 Jul, 2012 11:03 am

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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby damer » Fri 20 Jul, 2012 10:50 am

looks like it is going well mate, well done
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby pazz » Mon 06 Aug, 2012 6:44 pm

hi dan must be time for an update need my nps fix ...
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Re: Welcome to the Dark Side of Reefing...Dendro update

Postby MeLLeR » Tue 07 Aug, 2012 12:34 am

pazz wrote:hi dan must be time for an update need my nps fix ...


:withyou: dendro must have filled the tank by now given your growth rates :roflmao:
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