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G1v1n's Skimmerless Liverockless Reef [Winner TOTM Jan08]

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Postby StripestheEel » Sat 17 Jan, 2009 12:24 am

Congrats on 4th mate!!
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Postby Deester » Sat 17 Jan, 2009 10:28 am

StripestheEel wrote:Congrats on 4th mate!!


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Congrats mate ... :thumbsup:

Cheers,

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Postby CT_Reefer » Sat 17 Jan, 2009 8:53 pm

Awesome tank mate. I love the leathers in your tank!!
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Postby G1v1n » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 12:30 am

Thanks to Aquarium Solutions , here are some pics taken using the new Nightsea kit.
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Postby StripestheEel » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 1:31 am

Thats heaps cool!
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Postby blags » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 1:00 pm

Very cool
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Postby BISHY » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 3:05 pm

cool pics.

can you explain 'liverockless'
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Postby Rod the Reefer » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 4:46 pm

Wooow, scary.

Looks great.

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Postby kurt » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 5:40 pm

Very cool pics, was this taken with normal lense, ive seen the nightsea flashlight and glasses somewhere.
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Postby G1v1n » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 8:19 pm

BISHY wrote:cool pics.

can you explain 'liverockless'

Well, almost liverockless.
Most of the rock was dead limestone -collected dry locally and I only ever bought 2 very small pieces of LR to seed it. It only takes a couple of months for the corraline to grow over it. :thumbsup:
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Postby G1v1n » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 8:25 pm

kurt wrote:Very cool pics, was this taken with normal lense, ive seen the nightsea flashlight and glasses somewhere.

I won the flashlight and glasses kit for 4th prize in the TOTY comp ;) .
The photos were taken by holding the light with my shoulder/neck and holding the glasses in front of the camera - a bit tricky hence the blurry badly composed shots :nut:
Special filters (and the Nightsea range)are available for SLR cameras at Aquarium Solutions.
Thanks Scott for sponsoring the TOTY comp :thumbsup:
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Postby Greed » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 8:27 pm

G1v1n wrote:
BISHY wrote:cool pics.

can you explain 'liverockless'

Well, almost liverockless.
Most of the rock was dead limestone -collected dry locally and I only ever bought 2 very small pieces of LR to seed it. It only takes a couple of months for the corraline to grow over it. :thumbsup:


That's awesome. How did you get the corraline to grow? Was it just good water and management, or did you have any additives?
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Postby G1v1n » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 8:37 pm

One of the most interesting things about the fluorescence is noting how some similar corals fluores very differently eg I have 3 toadstools, 1 doesn't fluores at all, 1 shows bright green polyps and the other has glowing green skin but the polyps don't light up at all. It happens with SPS too, some shine brightly while others show nothing. It's a puzzle why corals fluores and even stranger that some do and some don't.
I have a red echinopora that lights up a beautiful metallic red under the torch but dosen't come out very well in the photos, same for all the crimson red colouring of coraline and other algae (dead alga glows green- go figure)and also corals like xenia.
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Postby G1v1n » Thu 12 Feb, 2009 8:43 pm

Greed wrote:
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BISHY wrote:cool pics.

can you explain 'liverockless'

Well, almost liverockless.
Most of the rock was dead limestone -collected dry locally and I only ever bought 2 very small pieces of LR to seed it. It only takes a couple of months for the corraline to grow over it. :thumbsup:


That's awesome. How did you get the corraline to grow? Was it just good water and management, or did you have any additives?

Yep, just keep water parameters right and it will come :roflmao:
When I rearrange now, I sometimes need to add a new rock and it stands out bright white but only for a month or 2.
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Postby G1v1n » Mon 16 Mar, 2009 9:50 pm

I've just returned from a trip to Bali to find I've lost almost all my acros. It seems my Margin coralfish died possibly due to coarser chunks in my DIY food mix(for want of any other explanation) and because it went behind the rocks, the tank-sitter didn't know it was missing. The rotting fish must have caused my 2 best stags to immediatly die ,followed one by one by the rest of the acros. I now have only one colony left(for now) and several frags from the other colonies but I don't hold too much hope :wall: . Some corals seem to be totally unaffected(morphs,zoas,trachys,oolaphyllia) some were upset for a while(sarcophytons, xenia) and some suffered some bleaching so I'll be keeping a close eye on(ancora, fungia).
I went through the usual "I'm over this" period but now I'm looking to use this situation to asses what I really want from my tank and think where I will go from here.
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Postby Hebbs » Mon 16 Mar, 2009 10:04 pm

Thats a real shame mate, it must have been heartbreaking to come home and find that, I can only imagine.

Looking forward though I am sure it wont be long before you are up and running again, and why do I have the feeling it will be something just a little out of the ordinary? ;)

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Postby Rod the Reefer » Mon 16 Mar, 2009 10:06 pm

That's really rotten news.

I'm sure reefers should never, ever go on holidays!!

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Postby meljay » Mon 16 Mar, 2009 11:58 pm

That's a bummer.
Gavin, you've given me a couple acro frags past six months.
I would be happy to break them in half to give you some frags back.

Just let me know. :thumbsup:

Took the pics below when I first put them in the tank

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Postby Rhys123 » Tue 17 Mar, 2009 1:03 am

Hey Givin

Come over and we will frag some of mine up if you want to get you back on the road (I actually have a few frags sitting there which you could grab)

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Postby KirTracid » Tue 17 Mar, 2009 10:03 am

I'll even mail you some frags, my shout if you want as it's horrible to have something like that happen. I had a similar thing happened where big beutiful colonies RTNed for no explainable reason, it's horrible to see everything suddently so white. Shoot me a PM if you're not already inundated with offers of frags.

It'll be back to where it was though, and it really was amazing.
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Postby G1v1n » Tue 17 Mar, 2009 8:15 pm

Thanks guys :thumbsup: it means a lot to get so many offers of help and I will take you up on it but I will leave things as they are until things settle down and I see improvement in the current corals(in the last hour the water just turned milky for no apparent reason)- I am suspecting the green hammer that bleached- one of my favourites originally a frag from itdepends.
I am waiting to see what else I lose before I make any changes to the display- there is no point in spending time rearranging things only to have more losses and need to rearrange again. Plus, moving the corals now would add more stress that they don't need right now.
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Postby Rhys123 » Tue 17 Mar, 2009 8:37 pm

Water turning milky that doesn't sound good

When your ready give me a bell.

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Postby blackers10 » Tue 17 Mar, 2009 9:09 pm

that is an AWESOME tank with no mechanical filtration...

would you reccomend others going down the same path with just some live rock(Rather than colonising limestone etc)??

as it dramatically decreases the costs of setup etc
having it completely see through to allow viewing from both sides is great too
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Postby G1v1n » Wed 18 Mar, 2009 12:36 am

False alarm :o the cloudiness subsided as quickly as it came. It could have been a snail spawn and the hammer was affected by it. The hammer looks better(but still pale) it was a close call, I was ready to sacrifice it to save the rest of the tank.
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Postby troy » Tue 31 Mar, 2009 11:47 pm

glad to hear your tank is settlen down i hope to get the new one filled this weekend see how i go
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Re: G1v1n's Skimmerless Liverockless Reef [Winner TOTM Jan08

Postby G1v1n » Sat 09 May, 2015 11:14 am

I thought Id add an update in case anyone was following this thread as havent visited the forums for a few years now and to be honest, have paid very little attention to my tank. It is still running well though in the same format except ive changed to LEDs. The sump houses a DSB only. Still no skimmer and ive been really slack and not done a water change for at least 18 months. Ill try to get some current pics up soon.
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Postby Choppa » Sat 09 May, 2015 10:49 pm

This is a great tank set up mate - pics please :poke:
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Postby G1v1n » Tue 12 May, 2015 10:20 pm

Lets see if i remember how to put up photos.
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Postby G1v1n » Tue 12 May, 2015 11:01 pm

Ok, i got it now.
Ive been a bit over reef tanks for a while but my interest is starting again.
The tank has existed like this for a few years with no water changes or cleaning and i was so slack i wasnt even refilling the randys additives, often running out for weeks at a time.
All i have done recently is to add the blue tang and foxface, sell off some morphs and put in the green hammer. I cleaned the glass and did a 120l water change ,otherwise it is just how it survived all my neglect.(even down to the dead acro colony I havent removed yet)
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Ive seen some amazing new tanks on here, I look forward to meeting reefers around here, old and new.
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Postby Raven » Wed 13 May, 2015 12:04 am

amazing tank, made even more so by how you've done it unconventionally.
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