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Postby G1v1n » Fri 24 Apr, 2009 10:19 pm

Sorry to hear about your troubles Gav - I know exactly how you feel, my tank is doing exactly the same as yours by the sounds of it. I keep telling myself to be patient and wait for it to cycle out but things still keep dying and stuffing up the process :wall:
Judging by some others experiences it seems a major crash is really difficult to recover from fully and even skimming and chem filters don't seem to be effective in restoring the water quality. I'm currently looking at rigging up a turf scrubber to see if that will restore the balance.
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Postby emlodge » Sat 02 May, 2009 2:29 pm

Hi Guv,
I was just wondering what your experience has been with the Aquamedic NG60? I'm thinking of buying one myself. Have you attached yours to the ceiling? I'm renting so i can't drill holes in the roof. Do you know if you can sit it on like small arms so that it sits on the tank?

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Re: Aquamedic NG60

Postby Guv » Sat 02 May, 2009 6:52 pm

emlodge wrote:I was just wondering what your experience has been with the Aquamedic NG60? I'm thinking of buying one myself. Have you attached yours to the ceiling? I'm renting so i can't drill holes in the roof. Do you know if you can sit it on like small arms so that it sits on the tank?


G'day emlodge,

If you are looking for a pendant, they really are a top quality unit. I've had absolutely no problems with it. That said, I've also done some <a href="http://www.masa.asn.au/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=170544">DIY work on it - to give it an additional couple of tubes and also a built-in timer</a>.

If you are going to hide it in a hood however, then you'd be much better off buying separate quality T5 and halide components IMO (much cheaper!!).

Mine is attached to the ceiling - their shell is actually quite thick aluminium, so they are heavier than you might expect. Unsure if Aquamedic do 'small arms' for them. You might have to rig something up yourself...

HTH

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Postby Guv » Sat 02 May, 2009 6:55 pm

G1v1n wrote:Sorry to hear about your troubles Gav - I know exactly how you feel, my tank is doing exactly the same as yours by the sounds of it. I keep telling myself to be patient and wait for it to cycle out but things still keep dying and stuffing up the process :wall:
Judging by some others experiences it seems a major crash is really difficult to recover from fully and even skimming and chem filters don't seem to be effective in restoring the water quality. I'm currently looking at rigging up a turf scrubber to see if that will restore the balance.


Hey Gav, how'd you go with this idea? Tank doing any better? I've just been leaving the algae to grow all over the glass... kind of figure it is almost the same thing (as long as I eventually remove it! :roflmao:)
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Postby G1v1n » Sat 02 May, 2009 11:14 pm

Me too(also partly because I'm a little jacked off with it) ;)
I've added a light to the sump with a spill plate for microalgae to grow on and a clump of macro underneath. The micro hasn't appeared yet but the macro is pearling so I'm hoping some good will come of it.
Today I had to bite the bullet and remove all corals showing any signs of recession including the ones I hoped would recover because I don't think things will improve until I got rid of anything that may be releasing nutrients. In the past I have noticed corals look crook when they have stung a snail and it lay rotting next to it so corals seem sensitive to flesh putrifying and whatever that gives off to the water.
So now I have a tank very nearly devoid of stony corals and a large collection of skeletons in the backyard :wall:
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Re: Aquamedic NG60

Postby emlodge » Sun 03 May, 2009 3:58 pm

If you are going to hide it in a hood however, then you'd be much better off buying separate quality T5 and halide components IMO (much cheaper!!)


Hi Guv,
Don't suppose you can point me in the direction of some good quality separate T5 and halide components?? The price of the Aquamedic is a bit scary!

Thanks.
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Postby Guv » Sun 03 May, 2009 4:32 pm

emlodge wrote:Don't suppose you can point me in the direction of some good quality separate T5 and halide components?? The price of the Aquamedic is a bit scary!

It is isn't it!!

Best bet is to 1) Join your local MASx club (nice discounts) and then 2) check out <a href="http://www.masa.asn.au/phpBB3/index.php?c=4">The Individual Business Forums</a> for a deal.

If you are feeling adventurous, your local electrical supplies place will probably be able to get you decent quality control gear (Tridonic Atco, Vossloh-Schwabe, etc) cheaply - but you'll need to know exactly what you're looking for... The guys above will be able to sort some appropriate globes for you.

Either way you're going to need an electrician to sign off on your DIY - so keep that cost in mind too.

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Postby jason angel » Sat 09 May, 2009 11:27 pm

updates?? new FTS shot?
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Postby jeff127 » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 3:40 am

jason angel wrote:updates?? new FTS shot?


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BTW which bulb do use Guv?


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Postby Jase » Sat 12 Sep, 2009 12:43 pm

Give us an update Guv!!
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Postby Guv » Sat 12 Sep, 2009 10:09 pm

G'day guys, thanks for the interest...

Guv wrote:Unless something really drastic happens I don't see me quitting - currently wouldn't have time to take it down anyway! :roflmao:


Well... I found time. :nut:

The 'drastic thing' was a major renovation, which happened a lot quicker than I was expecting - basically gutted our entire apartment (all non-load bearing internal stud frame walls and all ceilings came down, also ripped up all the flooring).

So far we have re-installed the new internal stud frames - we now have an additional bed room and a new study too :clap: - and had about 40% of the ceiling framing put in. Also had the entire floor screeded - it was up to 20mm out in some places :wall:

As far as the tank goes, it is sitting empty in the midst of building dust - looking pretty sorry for itself! :roflmao:

The rock is in a 200L plastic drum on the balcony... I would hate to know how much it is costing me to keep it at temperature... the weather here has been crap lately.

The fish are with a mate - bar the Orchid... I guess it hid in a rock and is also in the drum but so far have not seen it :(

Lastly, I've changed roles at work - am now on site behind a hefty firewall... and obviously too busy with the above each night, hence my absence here!

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Postby Guv » Sat 12 Sep, 2009 10:20 pm

jeff127 wrote:BTW which bulb do use Guv?


Sorry Jeff - missed this before...

Over the life of this tank I've used AB (Aquamedic), Giesemann, BLV and itsmatty MH globes.

While Matty's globe looked nice initially, it didn't last more than a few months. The BLVs are probably my preferred brand based on both appearance (14,000K) and cost compared to the AB and Giesemann over here. The AB was too yellow for my liking.

On the T5s I've again used AB and Giesemann and also Sylvania & KZ. Colour just depends on how you mix them... I've seen nothing to say one brand is really that much better than the others.

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Postby Jase » Sun 13 Sep, 2009 12:26 pm

Wow wasnt the update I was expecting. But is exicting to think what you will do when you're ready to set the tank up again!
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Postby Hebbs » Sun 13 Sep, 2009 12:40 pm

Geez, sounds like you have been busy!

Al the best with the renos mate, look forward to seeing Cube2 in the near future.

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Re: Guv's 800*800*800mm Saltwater Money Sink...[TOTM Jan07]

Postby Guv » Thu 06 Jan, 2011 3:17 pm

Fiiiiiissh braaaaaaiins... braaaaaiins..... :o

Well the renovations are almost done, plans to recommission the money sink are slowly forming and zombie threads have been raised from the dead... Glad to see many of the same friendly faces are still here! :wavey:

Looking forward to reigniting my addiction in the near future! :crossfingers:

Currently contemplating:
  • Complete glass replacement (low iron)
  • Replacement of weir with longer length redesign
  • Dropping of weir box height to prevent salt creep previously battled with
  • Going bare bottom
  • Modding the old ATB into a re-circ design so that I can run it from the siphon overflow
  • Drastically simplifying all the gumph I used to have in the sump

Any other suggestions / new innovations I should be aware of??!!

Stay tuned...
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Postby Rhys123 » Thu 06 Jan, 2011 3:31 pm

Hey Guv

Long time no hear

Good to see you back (you guys down south always had the best tanks)
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Re: Guv's 800*800*800mm Saltwater Money Sink...[TOTM Jan07]

Postby Guv » Thu 06 Jan, 2011 3:50 pm

Thanks Steve - but I think you are too generous! ... Looks like I have much reading to catch up on - that looks like a monster project you have going on there!!
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Postby bubbleboy » Thu 06 Jan, 2011 4:38 pm

Hey Guv , welcome back mate!! :clap:
Enought of the welcome back band wagon now get on with it and wet the tank would you :pirate:
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Postby Rod the Reefer » Thu 06 Jan, 2011 5:15 pm

Hey, hey, blast from the past. :pirate:

Looking forward to the new innovations.

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Re: Guv's 800*800*800mm Saltwater Money Sink...[TOTM Jan07]

Postby Steve Campbell » Thu 06 Jan, 2011 10:15 pm

Fantastic, better you than me, mine sprung a leak and I'm actually happy without it.

You had the best tank I'm sure the new one will be something special.
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Re: Guv's 800*800*800mm Saltwater Money Sink...[TOTM Jan07]

Postby Guv » Fri 07 Jan, 2011 12:00 am

Haha - thanks for the welcome back boys! :cheers:

I can feel the pressure mounting already. All these expectations... :scared:

Steve, not good news! Any plans for the future - or just taking a well earned break?
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Postby saltydog » Fri 11 Feb, 2011 10:06 pm

Sweet :thumbsup: welcome back Guv.

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Postby Guv » Fri 11 Feb, 2011 11:37 pm

Thanks Chris :cheers:
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Postby Cale W » Sat 05 Mar, 2011 8:37 pm

looking forward to more inspiration mate.
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Re: Guv's 800*800*800mm Saltwater Money Sink...[TOTM Jan07]

Postby Guv » Mon 13 Jan, 2014 11:13 pm

Guv wrote:Haha - thanks for the welcome back boys! :cheers:

I can feel the pressure mounting already. All these expectations... :scared:


Well that was a bit of a fizzer! :wall:

Just as I started on preparations to bring it back up, I got an all-consuming work secondment that I've only recently finished up on... so without further ado, I'm going to attempt to get this old box running again. Only major change is going to be going bare-bottom. Most other components will be the same - at least initially!

So far:
  • Rebuilt my light again (was full of building dust from the renovation - also replaced the suspension wires with some nice new SS bike brake cables :madface: )
  • Re-soldered my Tunze Osmolator cables (never was very reliable - now it seems much better)
  • Replaced a lot of the old vinyl tubing with silicon tube (it is in the post)

Purchase of cutting board and re-plumbing is next on the agenda.
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Postby Guv » Sun 19 Jan, 2014 2:20 pm

It is wet! :devil:
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Re: Guv's 800*800*800mm Saltwater Money Sink...[TOTM Jan07]

Postby Htu08 » Sun 19 Jan, 2014 2:29 pm

Guv wrote:It is wet! :devil:


Pics pls! Just read through most of this thread the other day and am keeeeeeeen!
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Postby Jethrov » Fri 24 Jan, 2014 1:16 pm

how come you've decided to go barebottom?
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Postby Guv » Fri 24 Jan, 2014 11:00 pm

Htu08 wrote:Pics pls! Just read through most of this thread the other day and am keeeeeeeen!

Ha! Nothing to be seen just yet. Wet box. Plumbing works. A few other minor changes:
  • Electrical box now mounted well off the floor - a one year old forced the change. :cop:
  • Siphon has had DN25 ball valve added inside stand - much easier to tune.
  • Eheim 1262 return pump was 'lent' to a mate when I took the tank down previously... so my 1060 (purchased circa 1994) is back in service.
  • I've replaced the DN25 vinyl tubing with Silicon. Has drastically dropped transfer of vibration (and therefore noise) through the system.

Jethrov wrote:how come you've decided to go barebottom?

Mainly due to the hassle last time of removing the sand bed on take-down. It will also add another ~80L to the usable volume and eliminate sand storm issues, allowing me to 'turn up the flow to eleven'.

I'm not really a fan of bland bare-bottom systems... so I'd be hoping to cover it with coralline ASAP.
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Postby jayellul » Tue 18 Feb, 2014 10:55 pm

Nice read. I'll be following this resurrection!


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