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Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 24 Aug, 2013 8:45 pm
by MattnJayne
Introduction:
New to the world of Marine but kept fresh water tanks back in my youth. Had always wanted to set one up as back in the day my Brother in law had a marine tank back in the days where trickle filters were all the rage.

Firm believer of doing things right the first time so I have probably gone for overkill on a nano!!

System Objectives: Healthy system that will be done in baby steps having spent countless hours reading on here about how it’s all about baby steps!

System Type: Mixed Reef

Display System: Aquaone Aquanano 40 that I got off Gumtree and had only been used for a month as a Fresh Water tank

Strike up Date: Possibly September, still trying to decide as I am going OS in December for a week. If I do start in Sept, I will just cycle for an extra-long time.

Display Tank: 40x40x40, Display is 40L with the rear chamber being 15L

Display Lighting: At this stage it will just be the standard light that came with the tank with a marine tube in it but want to upgrade to LED. Am currently looking at the Maxspect Razor Nano, though I may end up looking at a new light to the market being the MicMol Aqua Mini Colour.

Stand: Standard AquaOne stand that is 40x40x80

Hood: No hood

Sump: built in sump at the back.It consists of three chambers, first will have the skimmer, the second chamber I hope to build a small media rack out of egg crate that I can run possibly Carbon if I need to and ROWAphos, third chamber contains return pump and ATO and heater.

Support systems:

System Water: Natural salt water

Display Water circulation: Vortech MP10. Yes I think this is overkill but I will just dial down the flow. (Not on the tank yet)

Return Pump: Eheim Compact 600

Skimmer: Tunze 9002. I could probably just do water changes to keep things under control but I thought if I am going to set up a tank, may as well do it properly.

Evaporation Top Up: Auto top up – Tunze 3152 which is the nano version of its big brother.

Images:

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Complete System
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With Light
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Back
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Trying to decide if to build a media rack in the middle section and another one under the skimmer to run filter floss..Thoughts?

Progress will be fairly slow on this for a little while as the MOF has stated no more buying until my bonus has come through which is not until mid Sept.

Tank is in the spare room until its ready to be filled.

Appreciate you looking.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 25 Aug, 2013 10:18 pm
by 555combo
Will be following along to see what ideas I can steal.

Good luck.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug, 2013 10:16 pm
by priscacara
Nice looking setup, looking forward to seeing how it develops.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep, 2013 9:30 pm
by MattnJayne
So not much to update other than next Saturday 14th I will be getting NSW delivered to start the tank cycling.

Should have some eggcrate this weekend so that I can make a media rack to run carbon and Rowphos.

Next on the list will be to pick up the MP10 off NotsoMot and to order the aqua mini from Micmol.

Will post up photos next weekend.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Thu 05 Sep, 2013 9:41 pm
by scottii2coope18
Woot micmol :)

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Fri 06 Sep, 2013 12:25 am
by some_one
Looks like it is coming together nicely Matt.

I would do away with the filter floss though :thumbsup:

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Fri 06 Sep, 2013 12:29 am
by MattnJayne
some_one wrote:Looks like it is coming together nicely Matt.

I would do away with the filter floss though :thumbsup:


Yeah wasn't too sold on the idea of filter floss.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep, 2013 6:28 pm
by NewyReefer
looks like your off to a good start mate looking good :clap: ...


tho if i was you i would run some sort of mechanical filtration, in the sump section of mine i have the first chamber as skimmer second full of live rock and third as the return, heater, phosban pump and canister filter return.

i had to add a small canister filter just for filter floss and rowacarbon (thats all no bio media) and i have to clean it once a week its amazing how much s**t it pulls out, even with a phosban reactor my p04 was at 0.44 before i added it to(now 0.00).

just a heads up your heater wont work there i had an issue with the way the water flows straght under the last baffle to the return pump there is no flow around the heater, so having the return from my canister there helped the flow..

Cheers :thumbsup:


P.S. thats 1 week of junk i personally wouldnt want to leave that floating around my tank.


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Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 07 Sep, 2013 6:37 pm
by MattnJayne
Hmm I have no where else to put my heater as I plan to build a media rack in the section section

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Wed 11 Sep, 2013 11:48 pm
by Gobzy
fellow AN40'er :wavey: looks like we're roughly at the same level so good luck to both of us!
nice hardware selection there.. i'm assuming im not alone in finding buying and setting up the hardware as exciting as the livestock? weird perks of the hobby :o

Does your tank have the slit at the bottom, at the base of the overflow vents? it will leak some water in there.. i actually managed to seal mine even after i added water, didn't think it would set but it did..

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Wed 11 Sep, 2013 11:57 pm
by MattnJayne
Gobzy wrote:fellow AN40'er :wavey: looks like we're roughly at the same level so good luck to both of us!
nice hardware selection there.. i'm assuming im not alone in finding buying and setting up the hardware as exciting as the livestock? weird perks of the hobby :o

Does your tank have the slit at the bottom, at the base of the overflow vents? it will leak some water in there.. i actually managed to seal mine even after i added water, didn't think it would set but it did..


Yeah I have already sealed that up plus the the first overflow was not sealed at the bottom so I have fixed that.

People are saying the heater in the last section won't work so I will see how I go over the weekend to see if it heats the tank or not

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Thu 12 Sep, 2013 2:52 pm
by 555combo
MattnJayne wrote:
People are saying the heater in the last section won't work so I will see how I go over the weekend to see if it heats the tank or not

You might be able to make an eggcrate stand to lift the pump a little from the bottom of the return section and shorten the return pipe if you find the heater isn't working well enough.

I see the point that is being made, worth experimenting with, mainly so I know what to do when I replace my return pump. :-D

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 14 Sep, 2013 8:05 pm
by Jazzhands
Wet yet? :o it's the weekend!

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40 - it's WET

PostPosted: Sat 14 Sep, 2013 8:30 pm
by MattnJayne
Jazzhands wrote:Wet yet? :o it's the weekend!


So delivery of NSW was delivered this morning and then it was a trip out to Vebas to get the live rock.

Got just over 5kg in there which should be enough.

Will post some photos up soon.

There is just a slight problem in that the water is quite cloudy so hopefully it clears soon. :thumbsup:

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 14 Sep, 2013 8:55 pm
by Jazzhands
I've been oddly excited for you! Can't wait to see ^_^

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 14 Sep, 2013 11:22 pm
by MattnJayne
okay as promised, here are some photo's. apologies for the them though as its still a little cloudy.

Haven't switched the skimmer on yet and I have only tested Salinity so far which was 1.026. I will test tomorrow if I get the chance but will be out most of the day.

Seen no signs of life yet..will post a better pick once its cleared up.

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Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 15 Sep, 2013 1:09 pm
by Jazzhands
Off to a great start! :D

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 15 Sep, 2013 2:53 pm
by MattnJayne
This morning I tested the water for the first tim using Salifert test kits.

Salinity :1.027 (a little high so I will monitor)
Temp: 26.3 - still getting use to the Jager heater so I have turned it down so hopefully it will settle in the 25 range
Nitrates: 0.5
pH: 7.7
Alk/Kh: 6.4
Ca: 360
P04: 0.03
Mg: 1140

Now some of these readings dont seem right t me (too low) so I will check again maybe in a few days time to see if it was me being a newbie and not testing right.

Havent seen any forms of life as in crabs, shimps, worms but I do have a few things that retract back into the rock when I get close or touch them..will post photo's up later of what they are and now that the water has cleared also..

Thanks

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 15 Sep, 2013 6:09 pm
by Gobzy
nice progress. nitrates already is interesting i didn't think they came until your nitrites began converting but what would i know!

I had worries with my standard heater.. i noticed the light was on quite constantly and thought it wasnt working great, i went and got a new eheim heater and noticed it's on around the same time.. the temp is fine so they were both working.

I saw no hitchikers however i've had clicking in my tank since beginning although i've never seen the culprit.. either a pistol or mantis shrimp from what i've read.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 15 Sep, 2013 8:22 pm
by reef4u
Hey matt

Not sure how long your tank has been up for but I wouldn't stress about testing etc. straight away. Sometimes you can get weird results while the system is stabilizing. I left mine for 2/3 weeks just topping off evap as required.

I would just let it settle... then you can have fun working out what is happening.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 15 Sep, 2013 9:22 pm
by MattnJayne
So I turned the skimmer on this morning and not seeing muck skimate atm but I know that it wont happen given there is little to no bioload and the skimmer needs to run in. I have it on the lowest setting so will watch over the coming days and make adjustments as needed.

Here is a better shot now the dust has settled.

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Plus the only life forms I have seen so far as below. It retracts if it is touched or spooked. Any ideas as to what it is?

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Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 21 Sep, 2013 4:48 pm
by MattnJayne
week 1 of cycle...

This morning I did a 10% water change and then waited a few hours and then tested, results are:

Salinity: 1.026
Temp: 26.1
NO3: 1 :wall: :wall:
ph: 8
Alk/KH: 5.7
Ca: 350
PO4: 0.03
Mg: 1110

skimmer has broken in but still trying to fine tune it.

MicMol aqua mini colour has been ordered and will hopefully be here by next week or the week after.

I am using the original aquaone pump for flow inside the tank until I can pick up the MP10 off another member.

May do a mid week water change to reduce the Nitrates but given this is week 1 of the cycle I might just leave it and see how I go next week.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 21 Sep, 2013 4:59 pm
by Gobzy
hopefully someone more knowledgeable can correct me if im wrong but again i wouldnt worry about the nitrates.. at the early stage it's only worth monitoring ammonia and then nitrite, with the subsequent spike and drop off as per the cycle..
I didnt do a single water change in the 4 weeks my tank cycled.
I'm jealous you have a skimmer, mine has no room for the conventional ones people use with this tank so im looking into some hang-on-back options

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 21 Sep, 2013 6:44 pm
by NewyReefer
Yep you will go through a spike of ammonia then nitrite then it will go to nitrate.

in nano tanks tho the process should only take about a week if your lucky.

also 1ppm of n03 is good man if you have under 10ppm is ok

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 21 Sep, 2013 6:48 pm
by MattnJayne
NewyReefer wrote:Yep you will go through a spike of ammonia then nitrite then it will go to nitrate.

in nano tanks tho the process should only take about a week if your lucky.

also 1ppm of n03 is good man if you have under 10ppm is ok


Good to know that 1ppm is okay. :thumbsup:

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 21 Sep, 2013 7:08 pm
by reef4u
How do you know week 1 of the cycle? I would just leave it alone for a few weeks and don't stress. There is no point water changing and testing on such a new system, it hasn't even had a chance to spike and come back down.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 22 Sep, 2013 11:26 am
by some_one
MattnJayne wrote: NO3: 1 :wall: :wall:


Good sign :thumbsup:

Especially if the rock was fairly fresh into the LFS.

Ammonia -> Nitrites -> Nitrates :banana:

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sun 22 Sep, 2013 1:12 pm
by MattnJayne
some_one wrote:
MattnJayne wrote: NO3: 1 :wall: :wall:


Good sign :thumbsup:

Especially if the rock was fairly fresh into the LFS.

Ammonia -> Nitrites -> Nitrates :banana:


Well even if it is a good sign, I am still waiting until I put anything in it.

Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 28 Sep, 2013 12:35 am
by MattnJayne
So today my new MicMol Aqua mini light arrived and I must say that for the price, the light so far is pretty good.

Its build quality is really good, though I did have a little trouble putting the arm extension bracket into the actual unit. Got there in the end with going in on a slight angle.

Its just running on the preprogrammed mode at the moment but I will have a play with it over the weekend at some stage and set it how I want it.

Anyways enjoy the pics (taken from my iPhone so I apologise in advance)

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Re: Matt's Aqua Nano 40

PostPosted: Sat 28 Sep, 2013 3:12 am
by Jazzhands
That's a sweet looking light! Might have to grab one myself!