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Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby CaptCrash » Fri 16 Jan, 2015 6:43 pm

In the last few weeks I have had quite a few questions relating to breeding Marine Ornamentals in WA.
Some have been from people who are underway with their breeding efforts others are from people looking to start.
I was wondering if there would be interest in coming up with a collaborative method of working within WA that would assist everyone with their efforts.

If its of interest, Im happy to pursue the idea and see what we can achieve.

I don't really have a specific idea of what we could achieve but some of the things that come to mind are as follows

1. Discussions on what is working and what is not
e.g. Tank setup, cleaning, filtration, medications, backup processes, instruction guides, live food care guides

2. Assistance with raising of live food items (e.g. algae, rotifers, copepods, mysis shrimp etc)
a. rather than everyone raising each of the food and algae items, we could look to share

3. Small group buys of breeding related things
a. equipment items (fine mesh, sieves, microscopes)
b. Group purchase of live algae starter cultures
c. Group purchase of frozen algae to lower the effective shipping and obtain wider choice of locally stored algaes

4. Assistance with "oops the eggs hatched and I don't have X food ready, who might have some to spare?" type questions

5. Assistance with grow out or fry space

6. Ability to group sales to wholesales and retailers expand on the choice of locally supplied fish in Western Australia/Australia (e.g. a broader range of non imported fish for sale).

7. Loan equipment when others are in need/have an issue
e.g. a large pump or skimmer fails, spare tanks/heaters/air pumps, kreisel's etc

8. A more obvious market for those looking to start/stop breeding
e.g. conditioned and laying broodstock, equipment setup and ready to go etc

9. Attendance at future MASA events like the Fragfest

10. Help with those looking to start with Marine Ornamental breeding, be that teaching/training, assistance, moral support, war stories, what not to do etc

11. Develop and maintain a list of suppliers for Aquaculture equipment that are of interest to the hobby breeder (some items can't be imported e.g. live food items so having a local source would be great).

12. Reach out to organisations as a group rather than individually to obtain assistance/gain a better understanding of their processes (e.g. University of Western Australia (Aquaculture), Curtin University (Aquaculture/Marine Science), Fremantle TAFE other private bodies like Octopus technologies here in Perth etc).

To put it in perspective, the breadth of Marine Ornamentals that have been raised in WA by members of MASWA is excellent.
The following species have being raised to a level where they are stable/saleable to my knowledge.

Clown Fish
Amphiprion akindynos (Barrier Reef Clown)
Amphiprion clarkii
Amphiprion ephippium (Fire Clown)
Amphiprion frenatus (Tomato Clown)
Amphiprion melanopus (Cinnamon Clown)
Amphiprion mccullochi
Amphiprion ocellaris
Amphiprion ocellaris "Darwin black"
Amphiprion ocellaris/percula cross
Amphiprion percula
Amphiprion rubrocinctus (Red Clown)
Amphiprion sandaracinos (Orange Skunk Clowns)
Premnas biaculeatus (Gold Stripe Maroon)
Premnas biaculeatus (White Stripe Maroon)

Cardinal Fish
Pterapogon kauderni

Dottyback
Manonichthys splendens (Splendid Dottyback)
Pictichromis paccagnellae (Royal Dottyback)
Pictichromis diadema (Skunk Dottyback)
Pseudochromis aldabraensis (Neon Dottyback)
Pseudochromis fridmani (Orchid Dottyback)
Pseudochromis flavivertex (Sunrise Dottyback)
Pseudochromis porphyreus (Purple Dottyback)

Dragonettes
Synchiropus splendidus (Green Mandarin)
Synchiropus picturatus (Spotted Mandarin)

Sea Horses
Hippocampus barbouri
Hippocampus kuda

Clams
Tridacna Maxima
Tridacna Squamosa
Tridacna ningaloo
Tridacna crocea

Shrimp
Lysmata vitatta (Peppermint Shrimp)
Hymenocera elegans (Harlequin Shrimp)

Snails
stomatela sp
trochus sp
tectus sp
cerths sp
nepthia sp
nassarius sp

Other Invertebrates
micro stars
bristle worms

Corals
euphyllia sp
pociliopora sp

Live Food Items

Algae
Tetraselmis chuii
Isochrysis galbana
Nannochloropsis Sp.

Rotifers
Brachionus plicatilis
Brachionus rotundiformis

Copepods
Bestiolina similis

Amphipods/Shrimp
Amphipods sp
Mysis sp

If I have missed anyones efforts sorry!

note: I have excluded fragging of corals and anemone as typically they are not being reproduced in a sexual manner, though there are some examples of this (Oceanarium and AcroAl for example).
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals in WA

Postby chromus » Fri 16 Jan, 2015 7:33 pm

I would be interested, I am slowly getting my breeding system gear together so this would be awesome.

I have seen a few people around the traps have lost their greenwater/rotifer cultures and searching for someone to help quickly due to new batches of fry, so having a group of peeps you know are likely to be able to help would be awesome.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals in WA

Postby TANK BOY » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 1:20 am

Why don't we start a sub group within Maswa for aquaculture and have a few get togethers to see who is interested in taking it further. Let's get together at my place so all we need is a date?
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals in WA

Postby notsomot » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 1:32 am

Anything MASWA can do to promote Aquaculture and help/ inform breeders will always have MASWAs support.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby CaptCrash » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 6:06 pm

Thanks for the support guys.

Whilst I have posted the question about WA, for a lot of the items the information would be applicable Australia wide.
Obviously just not things like equipment loans or rapid supply of algae/live foods.

It would be useful to get a list together of food items that people are culturing across the country so that this becomes more available.
For example SS rotifers/useful copepod strains are difficult to come by and if anyone has them that great to publicise and share.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby poolman » Sat 17 Jan, 2015 11:00 pm

Hi Darren

Great idea, count me in, would love to learn from all the experience here.

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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby damer » Sun 18 Jan, 2015 8:36 am

Anything to promote captive breeding.

For years I tried and tried with the "breeders challenges".

After three or four years without any tanks at all I'm now back up and running and have 28 bangers at 8 days, so would be very keen to assist in pooling resources and knowledge, even just a list of sites/suppliers or equipment and bulk foods.

Hoping to work with yellow watchman gobies, a couple of blennies, assessors and a couple of dotty backs as well, so SS Rotifers would be good if anyone has some.

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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby tremble » Sun 18 Jan, 2015 1:28 pm

Really interested to see where this goes.

I've recently ventured into the breeding game and although there is a lot of resources out there, there seems a real lack of forums/groups where people can discussions and get feedback on their setup/routine.

Currently my broodstock consists of 2 GSM pairs (one broodstock from another breeder) and an onyx pair (which I suspect are still a bit young). I've been meaning to post my setup for a while, this is probably a good excuse to :).
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby urbanrat84 » Sun 18 Jan, 2015 4:34 pm

I'd like to see sexy shrimp aquacultured - 8 years in the hobby and I've never clapped eyes on one, thats just sad.

You could also encourage those who want to support aquaculture efforts to get their fish/inverts spawning and donate fry/eggs to local breeders.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby n0rk » Mon 19 Jan, 2015 12:05 pm

Anything that can help compel people into attempting to make the hobby more sustainable is a good thing. I hope this initiative takes flight.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby DgrMouse » Mon 19 Jan, 2015 1:09 pm

I'm in with the seahorses dude :thumbsup:
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby camakazi » Tue 20 Jan, 2015 11:52 am

Would love to see this happening
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby ACROAL » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 1:38 pm

Well done Darren, the big one being rotifer and algae cultures.

ps. Add The Zebra Turbo to the list Turbinidae
Also T.ningaloo, and T.crocea... ;)
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby n0rk » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 1:47 pm

ACROAL wrote:T.crocea... ;)


Something you're not telling us, Mr. Al? :poke:

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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby CaptCrash » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 2:17 pm

ACROAL wrote:Well done Darren, the big one being rotifer and algae cultures.

ps. Add The Zebra Turbo to the list Turbinidae
Also T.ningaloo, and T.crocea... ;)

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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby oceanarium » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 7:09 pm

Just having a combined resource for the cultures would be huge.

I maintained the same strains constantly for about ten years straight so know the drain it can have to keep a perpetual one in motion. Its OK if your breeding every day of the week every week of the year as we were then.

Having a reliable back stop to stop and start cultures when and if you need them would be a great resource.

Pretty sure your probably in the same boat i was back then Darren hard to go far or for long for want of keeping them going, annual hols etc !

I largely have eggs and larva going to waste all the time because I don't have the time to maintain perpetual cultures here any more. But if there was a communal resource to plug into to start up one as needed I would probably do a few batches here and there.

Equally we have some fine brood stock here laying on regular cycles going to waste for want of someone to do something with them. I would be more than happy to see something done with the eggs.

I even have 11 parabolic egg rearing tanks plumbed in and not doing much other than looking pretty.

There is quite an expansion that can be made on that list so far as inverts captive bred; micro stars, bristle worms, stomatela, trochus, tectus, cerths, nepthia, euphyllia, pociliopora, nassarius just off the top of my head now. Plus not to mention Mic Payne was a MASWA member and his achievements with shrimps, seahorses and pipe fishes are astounding. A lot he did in small numbers not many people knew about.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby oceanarium » Thu 22 Jan, 2015 7:13 pm

Graham also did blue stripe and skunk clowns that come to mind :)
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby CaptCrash » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 1:10 pm

oceanarium wrote:Just having a combined resource for the cultures would be huge.

I maintained the same strains constantly for about ten years straight so know the drain it can have to keep a perpetual one in motion. Its OK if your breeding every day of the week every week of the year as we were then.

Having a reliable back stop to stop and start cultures when and if you need them would be a great resource.

Pretty sure your probably in the same boat i was back then Darren hard to go far or for long for want of keeping them going, annual hols etc !

I largely have eggs and larva going to waste all the time because I don't have the time to maintain perpetual cultures here any more. But if there was a communal resource to plug into to start up one as needed I would probably do a few batches here and there.

Equally we have some fine brood stock here laying on regular cycles going to waste for want of someone to do something with them. I would be more than happy to see something done with the eggs.

I even have 11 parabolic egg rearing tanks plumbed in and not doing much other than looking pretty.

There is quite an expansion that can be made on that list so far as inverts captive bred; micro stars, bristle worms, stomatela, trochus, tectus, cerths, nepthia, euphyllia, pociliopora, nassarius just off the top of my head now. Plus not to mention Mic Payne was a MASWA member and his achievements with shrimps, seahorses and pipe fishes are astounding. A lot he did in small numbers not many people knew about.


Thanks Pete, I have updated the list.
Once we get some traction, it would be good to see if we can achieve something with the equipment and ready egg supply you have.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby CaptCrash » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 1:11 pm

oceanarium wrote:Graham also did blue stripe and skunk clowns that come to mind :)


Yup I figured I would have missed a couple of Grahams species.
Im going to have a chat to him next week once he is back home and update the list and see if he is interested in assisting/advising.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby CaptCrash » Sat 24 Jan, 2015 1:21 pm

Thanks everyone for the interest so far, it looks quite encouraging.
I will organise some more details over the next few weeks with the objective to get something going in late Feb (Im going away in early/mid feb).
By all means if others are interested, please post up.
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Re: Anyone doing Aquaculture of Marine Ornamentals

Postby gpsmart » Sat 31 Jan, 2015 10:53 pm

Hi Guys,

I am always willing to help where I can and more willing to part with some of the finer details now that I am not breeding commercially. Let me know what I can do or what info you need.

Darren, you can add Orange Skunk Clowns (A. sandaracinos) as well as Royal, Skunk and Splendid Dottybacks (Pictichromis paccagnellae, Pictichromis diadema and Manonichthys splendens) to your list.

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