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My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Sat 03 May, 2014 8:53 pm

After having reasonable success with breeding Amphiprion ocellaris I have been planning my next challenge.

For some time I have been interested in the Banggai cardinalfish (Pterapogon kauderni). I became aware of a hobbyist in the North of the State who was closing down his tank - he had a pair that had bred a number of times in his tank - if nothing else, that overcomes the problem of trying to pick a male and female.

The first spawn occurred on 23/2/14 but the male decided to eat the eggs on day 16 - maybe he was too tempted by the clown fish nest that hatched on that night.

The second spawn occurred on 20/4/14. Last night I decided to strip him of the eggs i.e. 12 days post spawn. After a fair amount of effort I was able to obtain a number of eggs - they are pretty much eggs with eyes at this stage.

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I almost had a major disaster during the night when I had a malfunction with the egg tumbler but, luckily, the eggs survived and have developed quite a bit in a short period of time

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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Ben Paul » Sun 04 May, 2014 1:30 pm

Looking good
Good luck it's not easy to get them through
Hope the tumbler doesn't fail again for you
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Mon 05 May, 2014 9:28 am

Thanks Ben.

The tumbler is still working reasonably well so :crossfingers: that it all works out as planned.
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Ben Paul » Thu 08 May, 2014 9:40 pm

How are they going ?
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Sat 10 May, 2014 11:01 pm

Ben Paul wrote:How are they going ?


Not good - my DIY egg tumbler is not working as I would have hoped. I have had a few eggs die but also had a number hatch but the fry have been sucked into the top sponge and died. I changed over the tumbler last night to a pump driven one but I suspect I have been too late. I still have a few viable eggs remaining but I think they have been handled too much over the past week and doubt that any will survive.

If nothing else, I have learned a lot with this spawn which should help with subsequent ones. I ordered a Ziss tumbler today which should help a lot.

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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Ben Paul » Sun 11 May, 2014 8:57 am

Better luck next time never herd of a ziss tumbler where are they from
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby damer » Sun 11 May, 2014 2:52 pm

:withyou:

Good luck, at least you are having a go.
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Sun 11 May, 2014 11:40 pm

Ben Paul wrote:Better luck next time never herd of a ziss tumbler where are they from


There was a recent writeup on reefbuilders about the Cobalt Egg Rocker - http://reefbuilders.com/2014/03/17/egg- ... plication/. This is just a rebranded Ziss egg tumbler which has been used in the freshwater world for some time.

I have continued to have problems with my DIY egg tumblers - I have lost quite a number to fungus and a few to my own mistakes with the end result that I currently have 3 fry remaining although I suspect that one will die overnight as it has a damaged caudal peduncle which appears to now be showing some fungus. Hopefully I can keep these two alive, learn from my mistakes, and have much better success with future spawns.

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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Mon 26 May, 2014 10:02 pm

After some major issues I have one survivor who is now at 32 days post spawn. It is eating well on gut loaded BBS and is growing quickly :)

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Hopefully I will be a bit more successful with the next spawn.

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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby damer » Wed 28 May, 2014 10:47 am

You only have to raise one to be successful. Well done.
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Thu 29 May, 2014 10:28 am

Thanks Damien.

I did say 'more' successful :)
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Macca_75 » Thu 29 May, 2014 10:33 am

Nice job.

I'll bet the same issue doesn't strike twice.

Any chance it's a boy ;-) I need one of those
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Autonomy » Tue 26 Aug, 2014 12:58 am

Good on you for hanging in there. Soooooo cute!! I'll definitely be following along and looking forward to your updates. Good luck with it all. :thumbsup:
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Wed 27 Aug, 2014 11:01 am

Autonomy wrote:Good on you for hanging in there. Soooooo cute!! I'll definitely be following along and looking forward to your updates. Good luck with it all. :thumbsup:


Thanks Autonomy.

Unfortunately, my male has eaten the last two spawns before I had a chance to get the eggs off him. I try to leave them with him for as long as possible - the last time I had planned to strip him on a Friday night but my daughter was sick and didn't get around to it. By the Saturday afternoon he was much too interested in the food I was putting in the tank :wall:

There is always next time :)
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Autonomy » Tue 09 Sep, 2014 12:50 pm

Well you can't say that he hasn't received a potent boost of nutrients, including vitamin B-12 ,omega-3 fatty acids and vitamin D. So hopefully his next batch will be super fry! :crossfingers:
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby NautyNigel » Mon 22 Sep, 2014 9:23 am

any chance for an update on this?
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Mon 22 Sep, 2014 1:36 pm

No more spawns at the moment unfortunately.

Hopefully, one is not too far away.
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Fri 26 Sep, 2014 11:24 am

A spawn wasn't too far away :roflmao:

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There could be one small complication - I will be away for a week from 4/10/14 and the fish will need to look after themselves during this time. He has traditionally eaten the eggs around day 13, when I will be away. So, my plan is to strip him next Thursday night (2/10/14) - this will be at 8 days which is a bit earlier than I would have liked but hopefully it will be OK.

The eggs don't hatch until around day 17 which is just about when I will be returning home. Hopefully, I will return to a tumbler full of Banggai fry, or it could also be a stinking mess of dead eggs :crossfingers:
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Autonomy » Fri 03 Jul, 2015 1:41 pm

Just curious to know, what was the end result? A tumbler of Banggai fry or a stinking mess of dead eggs? :-s
I hope it wasn't the latter. :nono:
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby swazzle » Fri 03 Jul, 2015 3:37 pm

don't they look funny as eggs!
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Re: My Banggai Breeding Journal

Postby Magicj » Mon 06 Jul, 2015 1:16 pm

Autonomy wrote:Just curious to know, what was the end result? A tumbler of Banggai fry or a stinking mess of dead eggs? :-s
I hope it wasn't the latter. :nono:

It was neither - he ate the eggs before I departed :wall:

I have plans within the next 6 months to relocate this pair into their own tank - hopefully the quieter environment will result in improved outcomes :crossfingers:
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