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Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby LucasH » Tue 25 Sep, 2012 6:07 pm

Hi Guys

I like the idea of self sustaining populations of creatures in my tank, i know Turbo snails reproduce easily but what other types of snails and inverts will form self sustaining populations? I have a heap of different snails in my tank, Turbo, Trochus, nassarius, strombus and a heap of hitchhiker's im curious to find out which ones will look after themselves and which ones ill need to top up.
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Darr1n » Wed 26 Sep, 2012 9:41 am

This will greatly depend on things like other livestock etc.

Turbo should no problem.

Trochus, unlikely as there has been little if any breeding.

Strobs, again same as Trochus.

Nass, unsure.

Other things like pods (amphipods) will be diminished by livestock (wrasse, dragonet etc), but should still maintain a good population within the rocks on their own.
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Haratu » Sat 27 Oct, 2012 1:59 pm

Darr1n wrote:Trochus, unlikely as there has been little if any breeding.


Odd, my trochus snails are the most prolific invertebrate in my tank. I have about 20 2mm snails wandering about in sand and cracks (I have no other types of snails so I know they are trochus).
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby ssbk23 » Sat 27 Oct, 2012 2:20 pm

Haratu wrote:
Darr1n wrote:Trochus, unlikely as there has been little if any breeding.


Odd, my trochus snails are the most prolific invertebrate in my tank. I have about 20 2mm snails wandering about in sand and cracks (I have no other types of snails so I know they are trochus).

Are you sure you are not confusing these as turbo snails?
Can you provide pics?
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Andre.Gibson » Sat 27 Oct, 2012 4:43 pm

It's probably more common than people think. Trochus definitely do breed in aquariums. In my old tank I witnessed them "spawning" a few times. Quite interesting as they perch up on the highest rocks and release sperm and eggs.
Turbos definitely breed easier but Trochus certainly have in many reefers tanks.

I have not personally witnessed strombus or nassarius but I have seen baby nassarius for sale a few times in the classifieds

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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Thanh3k » Sun 28 Oct, 2012 12:36 am

I have found a few baby trochus snails in my sump and placed them in the DT where they quickly grew. I had both types of snails (turbos and trochus) the trochus I only found about 4 babies in 2-3 years whereas the turbos had millions. This happened in my first tank.
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Andre.Gibson » Mon 29 Oct, 2012 10:34 pm

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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby oceanarium » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 11:10 am

I get trochus and ceriths very often, though never in the same types of numbers as turbo's.

To name a few more self sustaining inverts Drupella, Predatory whelks, Apitiasia, Briopsis, Valonia, Pyramid snails, Majano :poke:

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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby aussieant32 » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 11:27 am

Yep, my trochus, ceriths and turbos all spawn often. I never even added any ceriths and have about 200 of them now. Assuming some small ones came in as hitchikers. I bought 2 trochus, now have several although one adult died so may not have any new ones for a while.

turbos without saying, I have more turbos than water!
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby oceanarium » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 11:39 am

Stomatella are prolific and usefull as Turbo's :)

Also Abalone :) My current systems are very low on diatoms so we get less through than we used to a few still find enough sustenance to grow out.

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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby aussieant32 » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 11:41 am

forget about stoms, got about 10
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Haratu » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 12:31 pm

ssbk23 wrote:
Haratu wrote:
Darr1n wrote:Trochus, unlikely as there has been little if any breeding.


Odd, my trochus snails are the most prolific invertebrate in my tank. I have about 20 2mm snails wandering about in sand and cracks (I have no other types of snails so I know they are trochus).

Are you sure you are not confusing these as turbo snails?
Can you provide pics?

Definately trochus. It is my understanding turbo have more rounded shell tubes while trochus have a more smooth cone shell with few or no bumps.
As a side note trochus is not the species name, and in fact there are numerous species of trochus. Some trochus may be harder to breed than others.

More info here:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rs/index.php
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby oceanarium » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 1:08 pm

Haratu wrote:Definately trochus. It is my understanding turbo have more rounded shell tubes while trochus have a more smooth cone shell with few or no bumps.
As a side note trochus is not the species name, and in fact there are numerous species of trochus. Some trochus may be harder to breed than others.


:withyou: Some are much harder, the one i mention are the shape of Trochus, in fact Tectus pyramis.

Two more snails come to mind Limpets and Chitons :thumbsup:

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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Bandit » Tue 30 Oct, 2012 2:34 pm

I had loads of 'Trochus' snails reproducing in my tank a few years back... they definitely breed!

I also had a Tiger Tail sea cucumber (Holothuria hilla) go from one to seven in the space of 3 years!
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Haratu » Wed 31 Oct, 2012 3:03 pm

oceanarium wrote:Two more snails come to mind Limpets and Chitons :thumbsup:

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Yeah, those two can reproduce, you can get them as hitchhikers when you go buy some cured live rock (you can't buy them seperate).
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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Aydee » Wed 31 Oct, 2012 8:38 pm

Should also point out:
Mysis shrimp. (Provided they have a safe place)

Great little invert to have in the tank.

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Re: Self Sustaining Inverts

Postby Axe s » Sun 28 Dec, 2014 7:40 pm

dragging up an old thread but i seem to have a couple of hundred baby Tectus pyramis (trochus) in my tank at the moment.. growing very quickly..
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