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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Wed 23 Jan, 2013 11:21 am

looking great! can't wait until you can start supplying these guys!
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Bandit » Wed 23 Jan, 2013 11:45 am

How've did you go with your pair of Amphiprion mccullochi?
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 20 Feb, 2013 11:39 pm

Have just had my first success in artificial incubation of some Bangii eggs.

A few days ago I obtained a new pair, the male spat out eggs as part of catching them (PK3).
When I got home, I realized that one of my males (PK2) was also holding, as I netted him to move him to a new tank (out of the QT tank the new pair were going into).

Long story short, I had the opportunity to try artificial incubation of the eggs with two clutches.
The eggs from my existing male (PK2) were clumped together. I put them into a glass flask and then pumped water into the flask slowly to tumble the eggs.
The eggs from the new male (PK3) look to be a day or two younger and are just starting to wiggle.
Hopefully, Ill have about 40-50 fry by Friday/Saturday from the two batches.

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This is my first real success with artificially hatching these guys, and using the process of tumbling them with water rather than air.
I have a batch of orchid dottyback eggs that Im using the same process for. They are looking good as well, so that's really encouraging.
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Aydee » Mon 25 Feb, 2013 7:07 pm

Wow. Man, you are going to be one of the people that redefine our hobby. (I think you already have in a way). I wouldn't be surprised if we view you in the same way as April Kirkendoll in another 5 - 10 years (without the dead aspect. Don't do that).

Keep it up mate.

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Mon 25 Feb, 2013 8:57 pm

Aydee wrote:Wow. Man, you are going to be one of the people that redefine our hobby. (I think you already have in a way). I wouldn't be surprised if we view you in the same way as April Kirkendoll in another 5 - 10 years (without the dead aspect. Don't do that).

Keep it up mate.

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Thanks, that an awesome thing to say.
I didn’t know April had passed (did you mean Joyce Wilkerson?).

I don’t think I’m anywhere near their league yet, mostly my success has been with clowns and that has fairly well been documented now by lots of others so I have been able to just copy their work and processes.

Once I can breed some species others have not, then I would be proud to be listed with the next generation of hobbyist breeders like Matt Pederson, Tal Sweet, Luis Magnasco and Jim Welsh who are all making great strides in breeding new marine ornamentals and yet share their work so freely.

To sell my own success a little, I’m currently the third highest reporter on the MBI site, and within the next couple of week should be moving up to the number two spot with additional reports and successes of late. This will put me behind only Matt Pederson in reporting and documenting my breeding acheivements. That will be a big thing for me, Matt has something like 15 years’ experience with Marine Breeding, I’m coming up on 3 1/2 of having a Marine tank and two and a bit years of breeding, so I’m a complete noob in comparison.
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Aydee » Mon 25 Feb, 2013 9:09 pm

I'll have to research it some more. But I may have gotten April confused on the grounds she has also published a book on life and death with cancer (I think it may have been a friend of hers. Only 2 books she's published. Peppermint shrimp and cancer). Given April's fascination with cancer, and sudden disappearance and a very vague recollection that she won't be publishing anymore, I'm sure you can guess why I have it stuck in the brain that she's gone.

But, this is not so much about your major successes (eg. How far you have gotten with the Blue Tang), but just that one post about Bangaii I think was the thing that got me. Truly. Normally, everywhere I read, when the male spits, it's a death warrant for the eggs. You however, just take it, and turn it into a 'test-tube' baby. In such a way that anyone could do it.

Keep it up mate. I think you will redefine this hobby.

I'll be watching so I can say "I was there".

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Lore » Wed 27 Feb, 2013 2:37 pm

Artificial incubation of Bangaii eggs is a bloody brilliant idea! :pirate: Good luck with it
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Byronredsea » Sun 03 Mar, 2013 2:50 pm

CaptCrash im joining you ride mate i have my first bangaii baby found it in over flow back of my Red Sea 650 S
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby lorby » Wed 03 Apr, 2013 10:00 am

Just read this through the thread. Amazing work and dedication! The pictures are great as well!
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 3:07 am

Thanks for the comments guys.

I have a really interesting update today.

The guys at Vebas gave me some octopus eggs to see if I could raise them. They had been expecting them to hatch soon and sure enough once I got them home and into a bucket to acclimatise to the tank I was going to put them in, I noticed that a couple were moving around. I left them for about 30 seconds and came back to find two little octopus swimming around in the bucket. Over the next hour five hatched and are all doing well about 6 hours later.

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Im about an hour old
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Another one, this time im full of colour and running away from an Amphipod
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby cody.sheridan-2008 » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 4:02 am

cool bananas! how is everything else going?
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Lore » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 8:27 am

Now that's just plain awesome :pirate:

How big were those eggs?
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Andre.Gibson » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 8:32 am

Jesus christ dude. You just cant get enough!
Cant wait to yee your next breeding project, "how to breed dolphins in the back yard pool" :p

Seriously though Darren, keep up the good work. Your status on MBI is more than well deserved!!!

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby lorby » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 9:07 am

That is amazing!
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby TheJordans » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 11:17 am

Hats off to you again, Darren :thumbsup:
You're something to aspire to!
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 12:55 pm

Lore wrote:Now that's just plain awesome :pirate:

How big were those eggs?

There are two distinct sizes.

The majority of the ones that hatched are about 6mm long, 2.5mm wide and about 1.5mm thick.
Then there are some smaller ones, that look better developed, they are 1/2 the size.

Im hoping that some more will be hatched tonigt when I get home or over the next few days.
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 12:58 pm

Andre.Gibson wrote:Jesus christ dude. You just cant get enough!
Cant wait to yee your next breeding project, "how to breed dolphins in the back yard pool" :p

Seriously though Darren, keep up the good work. Your status on MBI is more than well deserved!!!

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Close but not quite, Im starting with octopus, then giant octopus then sharks with lasers. THE WORLD WILL BE MINE! :)
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 1:01 pm

lorby wrote:That is amazing!

Thanks, they are really cool to watch.

TheJordans wrote:Hats off to you again, Darren :thumbsup:
You're something to aspire to!

Thanks, I didnt really do much with these, just put them in some water.

The mother octopus looked after the eggs really well by the look of them, unfortunatly she will now pass away from what I understand, so that will be sad.
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 1:02 pm

cody.sheridan-2008 wrote:cool bananas! how is everything else going?


All is starting to go well now, after having got over the dramas. Fish are breeding, fry are growing so its back to being cheery about the fish.
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Lore » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 2:36 pm

CaptCrash wrote:
Lore wrote:Now that's just plain awesome :pirate:

How big were those eggs?

There are two distinct sizes.

The majority of the ones that hatched are about 6mm long, 2.5mm wide and about 1.5mm thick.
Then there are some smaller ones, that look better developed, they are 1/2 the size.

Im hoping that some more will be hatched tonigt when I get home or over the next few days.


Thanks :thumbsup:
Good luck with them...captive bred octopi on the way!
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Aydee » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 2:47 pm

What type of octopus is it?

Cool critters. Won't be long before you'll have to start entertaining them and preventing them from getting bored.

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 4:51 pm

Aydee wrote:What type of octopus is it?

Cool critters. Won't be long before you'll have to start entertaining them and preventing them from getting bored.

Dave


No idea really in terms of the species.
All that I know is that female was collected from the Geraldton area and laid eggs when at the LFS. They asked if I was interested in trying to raise them and here we are.
One of the staff at the store has had he species before and kept it as a pet for quite some time.
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Curious_Chaos » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 5:48 pm

Damn it, I can't even spawn my freaking bettas properly... AND YOU HAVE OCTOPUS. *Jealous and miffed* lol
There's something fishy going on....
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Andre.Gibson » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 8:41 pm

CaptCrash wrote:
Andre.Gibson wrote:Jesus christ dude. You just cant get enough!
Cant wait to yee your next breeding project, "how to breed dolphins in the back yard pool" :p

Seriously though Darren, keep up the good work. Your status on MBI is more than well deserved!!!

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Close but not quite, Im starting with octopus, then giant octopus then sharks with lasers. THE WORLD WILL BE MINE! :)


Put me down for 3 sharks with fricken lasers and then we can ransom the world for ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby Aydee » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 9:18 pm

So. I got bored, and looked at the taxonomy of known octopus species that are known to be in the Geraldton region. Found 1.

"Common Sydney Octopus"

http://regions.ala.org.au/imcras/Southw ... p=Molluscs

Scroll down to octopus in the species list.

Great website. It'll even tell you what type of corals are known to be in the area.

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby rmhowie » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 10:04 pm

Aydee wrote:Great website. It'll even tell you what type of corals are known to be in the area.

It's pretty great eh! :)

CaptCrash, nice work!!! Keep up the great work!

Oh and if you ever breed bobtail/dumpling squid, I'm so interested! :D
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding

Postby CaptCrash » Fri 12 Apr, 2013 7:22 pm

Aydee wrote:So. I got bored, and looked at the taxonomy of known octopus species that are known to be in the Geraldton region. Found 1.
"Common Sydney Octopus"

http://regions.ala.org.au/imcras/Southw ... p=Molluscs
Scroll down to octopus in the species list.
Great website. It'll even tell you what type of corals are known to be in the area.
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Great call on the species, I have been contacted by one of the Marine Aquaculture Scientist's at Department of Fisheries, Western Australia who confirmed the likely species to be Octopus tetricus or "Common Sydney Octopus" and has offered some advice on feeding the babies.

Thats the good news, the bad news is that so far the ones that have hatched have only lasted 6-12 hours in general, one did survive for about 30 hours. Hopefully the others will hatch and be better survived. So far 17 have hatched in total and about 6 have been stuck trying to get out of the egg.

I took the oppertunity to do some timelaps photos last night. These were done in very low light with about 5 seconds of exposure per shot. A new shot was taken every 30 seconds. This was then processed via photoshop to improve the exposure and provide some sharpening and image quality adjustments. Finally the 174 shots were combined into a video. In total this shows about 90 minutes of activity. In the photos below there are a couple of babys that have hatched to soon and still have egg yokes (I think) that didnt make it.

If you look at the individuals, you will see colour flashes, movement within the eggs and movement of the eggs (mostly in the bottom left and top centre).
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Re: CaptCrash Breeding - Now with baby octopus pics and vide

Postby Byronredsea » Fri 12 Apr, 2013 9:51 pm

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding - Now with baby octopus pics and vide

Postby Kransky » Fri 12 Apr, 2013 11:42 pm

Very nice work Darren.
I'll be following this thread.

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Re: CaptCrash Breeding - Now with baby octopus pics and vide

Postby Depths of blue » Sat 13 Apr, 2013 12:46 am

Good to meet you at the meet the other day, looking forward to being the 2nd person with captive bred blue tangs lol :P
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