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clown anemone shrimp

Postby Andus » Tue 05 May, 2009 5:37 pm

collected some larvae last night, put them in my kreisal tank.
here they are 1 day old.

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Postby Basenji » Tue 05 May, 2009 6:09 pm

Very cool. Good luck :clap:
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Postby sydneydrewid » Tue 05 May, 2009 11:20 pm

is that shrimp wearing a helmet?? :roflmao: Good Luck!!
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Postby Andus » Wed 06 May, 2009 10:20 am

Haha yeah I know it looks like it. But I really don't know what it is. I think it's just it's brain or guts. But thanks for the comments :). They are still all alive..
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Postby Andus » Wed 06 May, 2009 10:35 pm

photo of the shrimp under microscope :)
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Postby OzSpock » Thu 07 May, 2009 12:31 am

Andus,
Where did you get your kreisal tank from??
What size do you have??
Any chance of posting a pic??
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Postby Andus » Thu 07 May, 2009 12:50 pm

OzSpock wrote:Andus,
Where did you get your kreisal tank from??
What size do you have??
Any chance of posting a pic??
Thanks in advance,


I did make a tank journal of the kreisal tank a few weeks back.. And there are a few pics on there :)
But yeah I just made it myself.
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Postby Andus » Sat 09 May, 2009 4:13 pm

all the larvae died... it was my fault, didnt clean off the mesh enough, so it got clogged up and spilled over into the main section. also i havent been to the beach to get fresh water for a while, so i think the water quality was pretty bad.
anyway i made the mesh area alot bigger, and will just wait for the next clutch of eggs :)
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Postby Nax » Sat 09 May, 2009 5:03 pm

awwww:(

baby killer!
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Postby PaulG » Sat 09 May, 2009 7:00 pm

Nax wrote:awwww:(

baby killer!


Gotta break a few eggs to make an ommlette, hell I've been through THOUSANDS of larvae.

Andus, Yes water quality can be a real PITA to maintain, however you can keep water quality pretty good by adding a seeded air powered sponge filter to the tank (the holding tank not inside teh kreisel itself).

I'm experimenting with them atm & so far teh results are very promising, haven't had to do a water change for 3 weeks & parameters have been zero with the exception of nitrate which is getting up to around the 10 mark. Beats going through 80L of water each week.

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Postby Andus » Sat 09 May, 2009 8:05 pm

i do actually have one of those sponge filters.. a smallish 'aqua one'
i was considering hooking up a hang on filter.. with the normal filter wool and carbon.
but i guess its really not that neccesary.

i do live on the waterfront of lake macquarie and sometimes get water out of that... but the bloody power stations pump so much silt into the water.
but i have noticed heaps of the seasonal krill type of shrimp in the lake, and i guess they are algea eaters so there must be lots of good algea in the lake at the moment. could do for larvae food.


i guess shrimp breeding is all about experimenting :)
really interesting i must say... just wish there was more info out there. maybe we should write a book once we work it out haha
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Postby PaulG » Sat 09 May, 2009 8:27 pm

allready been done... do a search for 'how to raise and train your pepermint shrimp'

there are also several scientific papers on breeding shrimp (most you have to pay for) but in there is a LOt of info out there on teh net that is free, just a matter of searching for it.

While you may not find any exact nformation on teh species you are working with, look for similar species as they may have been done & take ideas from those.

I was originally planning on breeding fish, I had to get a couple of peps to take care of aiptasia & notices they had eggs so I thoguht i'de try raising them. Its just snow balled from there, so far I haven't raised any fish but lots of shrimp.

Hopefully this will be he year for fish.

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Postby Andus » Sat 09 May, 2009 8:41 pm

yeah i have looked around alot.. and i agree there is the info out there, but i guess i juts havent found that much detail for what i want.

i also am hoping i can have a go at clown fish, i bought a pair that had been breeding for years, but dont seem to want to in my tank ha.

anyway i think there is more money in shrimp? i heard tank bred clowns get bought for about $9 from the lfs, but then some wholesalers charge $15 each for peppermints.
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Postby PaulG » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 11:08 pm

Andus,

How goes teh shrimp breeding?
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Postby Andus » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 11:28 pm

hey paul, not that great.. the kreisal tank has just been cycling with nothing in it... one of my sexy shrimp got eggs on the 21st of may, but still seems to have them. not sure when they will hatch.

the clown anemone shrimp still hasnt got any new egss :(
i am feeding it heaps, and keeping everything fine but it just wont get any eggs.
maybe it just takes a while becuse they have such a large mass of eggs.

and i havent bothered buying a replacement peppermint shrimp yet from the other one that was eaten.

mods can move this to the other forum if you would like.. i dont know how to. but im not giving up on the breeding, jsut waiting for more eggs
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Postby OzSpock » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 12:58 am

Hey Guys, would Temp fluctuations induce them to lay their eggs, like snails tend to do??
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Postby PaulG » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 7:30 am

I do not beleive so, all of my adult shrimp produce eggs pretty much every 2 weeks.

even since the cold weather arrived they are still chrunng them out & its not uncommon for the water to get down to 24 when its normally at 26.

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Postby Andus » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 1:03 pm

maybe i should put my temps up?.. im keeping it around 23-24
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Postby PaulG » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 1:48 pm

Andus,

Give it a go.

Any chance you can post a pic of both the male & female shrimp?

The only reason I ask is that the tail of the other shrimp in the pic you provided looks very much like a Stars & Stripes shrimp.
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Postby Andus » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 10:57 pm

i couldnt get a clear photo of mine tonight, but here are some exacly the same on the net.

some photos of the male :
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ndwd8fLYaEY/SI2aJ ... G_0938.jpg

and here is a female http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ndwd8fLYaEY/SI2a9 ... G_1130.jpg
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Postby PaulG » Thu 04 Jun, 2009 10:04 am

without a clear pic of the adults its kinda hard to say but I'm thinking you only have a female, its proported partner is in fact a different species but without decent images its too hard to tell.
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Postby Andus » Thu 04 Jun, 2009 3:30 pm

sorry i will try and get a good pic, but i do have a pair, they have the same everything apart from the female is large and has more white spots on the belly.
if you google white pached anemone shrimp or pacific clown anemone shrimp you will see all different pictures of the pairs togeather.

or look at this youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bHeVtxXsMw
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Postby PaulG » Thu 04 Jun, 2009 3:49 pm

yeah I did gogle pacific anemone shrimp I got all sorts of incorrectly identifies images from coral banded shrimp through to redline cleaners!

Even some of the scientific names where associated with teh wrong species!

Oh & that vid... hold teh camera still will you! :poke: hehe

I'll double check the locally available stars & stripes shrimp & let you know the similarities.
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Postby Andus » Thu 04 Jun, 2009 4:34 pm

i have some shrimp that are labled as stars and stirpes shrimp (look at my tank journal for picks)
but after me looking at millions of shrimp picks i dont think they are the common periclimenes holthuisi that you see around here, but they are very simmilar to periclimenes magnificus..
the closest species i could find was periclimenes venustus.
i wish i did have some periclimenes magnificus :(
really pretty shrimp
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Postby Andus » Thu 04 Jun, 2009 4:37 pm

PaulG wrote:yeah I did gogle pacific anemone shrimp I got all sorts of incorrectly identifies images from coral banded shrimp through to redline cleaners!

Even some of the scientific names where associated with teh wrong species!

Oh & that vid... hold teh camera still will you! :poke: hehe

I'll double check the locally available stars & stripes shrimp & let you know the similarities.


oh and it wasnt me doing the video haha, someone in china or japan i think
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Postby Andus » Thu 04 Jun, 2009 4:39 pm

oh and i forgot to show this..
http://www.divingthegoldcoast.com.au/in ... terID=3802

those are photos from the gold coast seaway, very close to where mine were actually collected from a local guy up there
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